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RonaldMCd
04-07-2009, 01:12 PM
I'm not going to make any promises, but I would like to try to organize a 'floating herf'. It will take me a fair amount of leg work, so I figured I would see if enough people would even be interested.

The plan:

Obtain a private permit to float through Westwater Canyon, located on the Colorado River just over the Utah boarder. Permits can be obtained UP TO two months in advance. As I'm aware most of you are not avid whitewater enthusiasts, so I feel late August would provide the best weather/water combination (warm/low), so I can't even apply for the permit until late June.

Westwater is a beautiful, remote canyon, somewhat similar in geology to the Grand Canyon. You can see pre-Cambrian metamorphic granitic gneiss, which is approximately 1.75 billion years old. I have been told this is the oldest naturally exposed geological layer on earth (or maybe just the US), and the only other place it is exposed in the US is in the Grand Canyon. The overall trip length is 17 miles. I would try to get an overnight permit so we could camp within the canyon and have our herf at the camp! These permits are more difficult to obtain than a one day permit, especially on a weekend, but running the canyon in one day would not give us enough time to herf, so if I am unable to obtain a two day permit, this idea will be scratched.

The trip consists of several miles of flatwater. So flat that if the wind is in your face, you will go up stream. A good chance to enjoy the scenery and sip a couple of beers. Once in the canyon propper, you are presented with several miles of pool/drop style big-water rapids, ranging from class II to IV. The canyon gets much more walled in, with verticial cliffs on each side. A very beautiful place to be! I would anticipate flows of around 6,000cfs in late August, which is a low flow for this stretch (good flow for novices). After the rapids, you get several more miles of rediculously flat water. Good times can still be had jumping off some of the cliffs, and enjoying the spectacular scenery.

In order for this trip to work, I would need to first get the permit. Would you be willing to take a couple days off work for this, if I cannot get a weekend permit? Would you be flexible to multiple weekends ~late august/early sept if my first choices are already taken? The next step will be to find rafters willing to row you guys down, or guide you if they don't have an oar rig. This should be easy with an overnight permit (especially if it's for a weekend). Most rafters will row for beer/food. The private permit for Westwater is cheap (I think ~$7 per person). Max group size is 25 people. Payment is required at time of acquiring the permit, refunds are not given if the permit is cancelled. Additional people can be added to the permit if the spots are available on the permit. Other expenses would only be your food/beverages, gas, and any gear you might have to rent if I can't find enough...rafter food/beer would be split evenly.

As I said, a lot of things would need to come together for this to work, so even if enough people want to do this, it might still fall through...but I am relatively confident that I could make it work...IF I can get lucky on the permit.

I have plenty of pictures of Westwater if anyone wants to see them, and can also get you a low quality DVD video I made, with footage from my helmet cam, on my last Westwater trip (at about the same flow I would expect)...gives you a good idea of the whitewater you may encounter.

I'll be sure to have a few kayaking buddies along with me, picking up anyone who might fall out of the rafts :D I am a certified swiftwater rescue technician :D

Clinton

colimo
04-07-2009, 01:58 PM
i might be interested depending on the timing....might also know a couple guys w/rafts if needed

zmancbr
04-07-2009, 02:06 PM
I'm in... 'nuff said! :sifone:

moglman
04-07-2009, 02:55 PM
This sounds wicked cool to me. Keep us posted. My guess is too muddy and hot that far down for fishing. I'd bring my pontoon if so, though I'm not hiting a class IV in it.

physiognomy
04-07-2009, 03:37 PM
I would definitely be interested...

workinonit50
04-07-2009, 03:39 PM
Sounds like fun. I am in.

hsmunoz
04-07-2009, 04:03 PM
quote "You can see pre-Cambrian metamorphic granitic gneiss"

so- are these some kind of boobs? if so, I am in too!

seriously, I would be definitely interested, especially if we could camp out for a couple days to. I need to see more of this great state!

I have

a camper
a 2 man sit on, ocean kayak
a 9ft zodiac with hard floor.

and some good cigars.

opusfxd
04-07-2009, 10:33 PM
Definitely want to discuss this further. Especially if we can find a raft where we paddle. I don't want to be chauffered around, I want in on the fun. :)

ethanjhall
04-08-2009, 07:23 AM
I'm definitely in, and I know that my neighbor Sam is as well - it would just have to see if the dates lined up for him!

RonaldMCd
04-08-2009, 07:57 AM
quote "You can see pre-Cambrian metamorphic granitic gneiss"

so- are these some kind of boobs? if so, I am in too!

seriously, I would be definitely interested, especially if we could camp out for a couple days to. I need to see more of this great state!

I have

a camper
a 2 man sit on, ocean kayak
a 9ft zodiac with hard floor.

and some good cigars.

LOL...Henry, I doubt you would want to see pre-Cambrian boobs...although I will admit that getting flashed on a river trip is commonplace. We can only camp in the canyon one night, but there are some other spots to camp around the take out (camping on bedrock next to 100' cliffs overlooking the river). I don't know if you would want to paddle your sit on top down this stretch, but the zodiac might be cool. I'm not sure what the regulations are for powered boats, but with some rope work that sure would make for a nice effortless 'paddle' out of the canyon. I'll look more into that.

I'm keeping an unofficial list of who wants to go. We will then need to have a planning herf within a couple of months to see what dates will work best for the most of us. Doug, friends with rafts are most welcome. I would just want to make sure they are experienced beforehand.